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以下摘譯自紀錄片《Elighten up》中關於兩位Guru的幾段訪談：

1.採訪Pattabhi Jois（July 26, 1915– May 18, 2009）的一些訪談內容：

Yoga means your mind controlling capacity, taking practice, that is yoga.

瑜伽的意思是控制頭腦的能力，去練習，這就是瑜伽。

Yoga is "chitta vritti nirodha". "chitta" means mind control.

Now your mind is not control you, your mind searching all the places, that is not good.

在經典《瑜伽經》中描述“瑜伽”是“chitta vritti nirodha”《瑜伽經1.2》，“chitta”的意思的是控制你的頭腦。現在你的頭腦控制了你，它一直在四處尋找，這並不好。

Q: Is yoga a spiritual or physical method?

P: Both,Both.

問題：瑜伽是關於精神的還是關於身體的？

回答：都是，都是。

You take the practice, automatically it's coming, that is take practice, practice, practice, that is the method.

你去練習，有些東西會自動地到來。這就是我所說的“練習，練習，練習，一切都會隨之而來”。

Two methods is there — Outside, Inside.

Outside method — practice asana, pranayama, yama, niyama.

Inside method — pratyahara, dharana, dhyana, samadhi.

outside, correcting possible, inside, not correcting, impossible.

有兩種秩序—外在的秩序和內在的秩序。

外在的秩序諸如習練asana（體式），pranayama（呼吸控制法），yama（制戒），niyama（內制）；內在的秩序則是關於pratiyahar（感官控制），dharana（集中），dhyana（禪定），samadhi（三摩地）。外在的秩序是可以被修正，而內在的秩序則是不可能被修正的。

You follow, keep practice, practice, practice, last moment, inside, God is looking possible.

你去遵循秩序，去練習，練習，練習，某一個時刻到來了—你將會瞥見內在的神性。

One month, two months, one year......two years, ten years, No use, whole life.

Whole life is practice, that is method.

練習了一個月，兩個月，一年，兩年，十年…沒有用，要用整個生命去實踐。

整個生命都是練習，這是方法。

2.採訪B.K.S Iyengar的一段採訪內容：

I was a unhealthy child in my house, and I suffered from birth. I can say'til the age of 22,23,my guruji told me:"...if you do some Asanas, you may get health."

我從一出生下來便忍受著身體的病痛，這種狀況一直持續到我22,23歲。我的老師曾對我說“如果你去練習一些瑜伽體式，你可以變得健康”。

I thought something like...first time I'm hearing somebody saying that you gain health, but health only, I realize...after 7,8 years of practice.

我想這種狀況就像……人生中第一次有人告訴我：你是可以獲得健康的。於是我開始練習，7,8年後，我做到了，瑜伽為我帶來了健康。

Q: What is ur guru's name?

Iyengar: T,Krishnamacharya.

問題：你的老師名字是？

回答：T.Krishnamacharya（現代瑜伽之父，同樣也是Pattabhi Jois的Guru）。

Q: What is your guru teach...How to keep the body under control, so you are talking, you are...

Iyengar: Purely on a physical level. Even no doubt, my guruji was a great philosopher, I told you it took me 6 years after yoga to gain health, when health was not there, what can I think of philosophy? Tell me! I was strugging, just let me stand on my feet. The philosophical teaching came to me only after 1960,Not before.

問題：你的老師教了你什麼？是關於如何控制身體嗎，所以你剛才說……

回答：那時候只是在身體的層面，毫無疑問，我的老師是一位出色的哲學家，我曾經說過我花了6年的時間進行瑜伽的體式練習才獲得了健康的身體，如果我沒有一個健康的身體，我拿什麼去思考哲學？告訴我！我一直在和病魔搏鬥，為了能夠讓我自己站在我自己的腳上。關於哲學方面的深入對我來說是在1960年以後。

Q: What is the goal of yoga?

Iyengar: By the grace of God, it's a subjective way of...you know, eradicating the...the instinctive weaknesses of human being. For some it may be quick, for some it may be slow, but change has to take place, transformation has to take place, whoever it may be...in whatever average intellectual condition they are.

問題：瑜伽的目標到底是什麼？

回答：去感知到神，去感知到恩典，祛除我們身為人類天生俱有的軟弱。對有些人來說，這個過程很快，對另外些人來說，這個過程也許會很慢，但是無論如何，改變始終會發生，轉變始終會發生—不管你是誰，不管你具備怎樣的智性。

Q: Is Asana a preparation for a ...?

Iyengar: No doubt, it's a preparation, but everything is inherent in it also. Yoga can take a man into two ways of living...enjoyment of life, or liberation of life.

It doesn't matter at all,you want to improve,i want to improve,Same.You want to be a better,intelligent man,I want also to be a better,intelligent man.

問題：Asana（瑜伽體式）是準備……？

回答：毫無疑問！asana（體式）是為了準備，但是所有的東西也在它（asana）的裡面！生存的方式有兩種—享受生命或者從生命中解脫。

就像你想證明你自己，我也想證明我自己，我們都是一樣的。你想成為一個更好的更智慧的人，我也同樣想成為一個更好的更有智慧的人。

Love.Peace.Shanti

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